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RCArms.com
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Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 18
1917 Spandau Gew 98 S/42K Just what is this rascal Hello all.
I'm working through a fairly large collection of rifles for a local collector and I've stumbled on an oddball that I cannot positively identify and need some help.
It is a 1917 Spandau Gew 98 that has been shortened to a stub nosed mannlicher style stock and marked S/42K on the side.
It also has the 1920 Permission stamp on the receiver and the stock.
Pics posted and I am hoping to find some help nailing down the true identity of this rifle.
Thanks,
Don
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:13 pm
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pacrat
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Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 4565 Location: Socialist Republic of So. Cal
S/42K according to this reference is a 1934 Obie
http://mausercentral.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11338
Is the stock stamped S/42K or the reciever?
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:46 pm
RCArms.com
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Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 18
It is maqrked Spandau 1917 on he receiver ring with the Weimar 1920 permission stamp. Stamped Gew.98 on the left side of the receiver and S/42K on the right side under the side of the rear sight.
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:06 pm
psuedoperson
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Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 61 Location: Southern Md
Post some pics please.
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:33 pm
RCArms.com
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psuedoperson wrote: Post some pics please.
Pics posted
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:03 am
ikesdad
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Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 232 Location: Colorado
A very nice looking oddball. Whatever it is.
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:36 am
eagleye
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Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 404
Nose cap? I would like to see some close ups of the nose cap, are there any proof marks on it? Most interesting.
Thanks, Pete
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:08 am
marysdad
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Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 1059 Location: No. California
Second one of these that's turned up here recently.
http://mausercentral.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31300
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:35 pm
psuedoperson
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Third one actually,
http://www.mausercentral.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31203
I am wondering what the story is with these.
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:45 pm
z1r
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Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Lakewood, CO, USA
Your's is obviously a home conversion. I suspect they all are though it seems the other two found a way to use the band spring to reatin the nosecape
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:23 pm
psuedoperson
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Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 61 Location: Southern Md
So then refinishing wouldn't affect the value of it since its already been altered? Where could I find some examples of different nosecaps, any ideas?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:53 pm
RCArms.com
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Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 18
Any thoughts as to if these Gew 98 cut-downs are a legitimate military version or are they sporterized variants? I have to set a priced on this one and consign it for the owner.
Don
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:07 pm
z1r
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I doubt seriously it is a military conversion. IMHO, Just another home conversion albeit by a fairly capable person, it looks like they used the band spring to secure the nosecap, a nice touch.
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:15 pm
BobVZ
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Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 660
I believe I recall from a long lost thread that these were importer altered years ago to make them more appealing. I want to say it was Springfield Sporters. They were known for painting guns. CIA was also known for making their own altered military sporters.
I can say with 100% certainty that it is not a military issue. It looks like an attempt to make it look like Mauser's Special Range Rifle. I think it would look good if you trimmed the barrel to 21 1/2 inches and remodeled the barrel and stock to accept a 1909 Argentine carbine front sight and nosecap. Then it would definitely look military.
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:31 pm
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